Seamus, our General Manager, was talking to me yesterday about the problems we have fixing ceramic tap valves. Most modern taps use ceramic quarter-turn valves instead of rubber washers. Ceramic quarter-turn valves last much longer than rubber washers, and the taps are much more pleasant to use as you only have to twist the handle a quarter turn to get full flow, rather than screwing it around and around like an old-fashioned tap.
But when a ceramic valve tap plays up, it is a mission to fix. The quickest (and therefore cheapest for the customer) solution is to replace the valve. But few valves are the same, so you have to identify and supply a matching valve. If you know the manufacturer's name, and even better the tap name or model number, it is easy. But how many people know who made their taps? Not many.
Plumbers merchants seem to hold only the slimmest range of replacement valves, and in our experience we can only source a matching valve from someone's stock in about 50% of jobs. How do we deal with the other 50%? Our handyman zaps a photo over to the office, and Seamus uses Google Image search to find one that looks to have the right parameters and we order a few in.
So we can usually do it, but I have to say it is never very convenient for the customer, often requiring two separate visits (just to fix a tap!). A rubber washer tap would rarely take more than half-an-hour to fix, if that. But it can easily cost £100 to source and replace a ceramic tap valve, and you can buy a very nice brand new quarter-turn tap for that.
Of course a specialist plumber with a van full of spares might be able to solve this problem more easily, if they keep a large stock of different tap valves in their van. But if plumbers merchants don't even keep a wide range, seems unlikely that a plumber would. I would be interested to know.
Our aim is to identify a set of valves which will cover 100% of replacements. For a while Seamus had thought that three particular ceramic valves would cover all eventualities, but it had just been lucky that those three worked in a long run of tap-fixing-jobs. We soon found a whole load of taps for which our magic range of three valves didn't work. He now has a range of 10 different valves which, since a renewed effort to solve this problem, have worked in all cases.
Still, having every handyman carry even just 10 different valves around is not very efficient. Each handyman probably only does one tap job every couple of weeks (I'm guessing here, haven't checked the stats), so it would take at least 6 months to turn over that stock of 10 valves, not very efficient from a stock-holding point of view.
(Astute readers will be thinking, why replace the valve at all? Why not just take it apart and service it, that should get it working again. Correct. But that also takes a lot of time, and if after cleaning it up (including leaving to soak in a descalant) it still doesn't work you've wasted a whole load of the customer's time. Our view is that it is better to replace to be on the safe side.)
Wednesday, 21 February 2007
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It would be very helpful indeed if you would post a list of the ten inserts for those of us with a dripping tap at home. It is very wasteful of water, and there are many of us who would repair our own taps in the light of the water shortage, but who simply cannot afford £100.
Higher water pressure and 1/2 flow to stop works better to stop these taps dripping. They're first generation designs at present. 10 different types of ceramic washer where's the standards commities for plumbing industry.Stopping the grey market of sub standards components from the far East.Dommestic 13amp plugs are the next target.
The lever tap in the bathroom is dripping, and has been for over 3 weeks. It's connected to a hot water on demand system, and the water is frequently cut off here (once a month this year). Once the kitchen is refurbished, those taps will also be lever taps.
My husband can't use non-lever taps because of a disability. We can't find a single place which sells the replacement ceramic washers (or the valves), and the council doesn't fix trivial faults like this.
Are we going to have to replace the taps every 8 years (the length of time taken for this tap to start dripping)? If so, why weren't we told this when the taps were sold or fitted?
It is clear that these things are purely for manufacturer's profit. We built a new house in 2000, and 8 (yes, 8) ceramic disc valves have required replacement already, three different manufacturers. The kitchen (Atriflo - told it was high quality) has been leaking for weeks now, almost a trickle. We have a Kinetico water softener.
I wish you could still get stylish taps with washers - a few minutes, and a few pence!
I recently needed to replace the ceramic valve on my Blanco tap Borma Lux 2346. Blanco spares are obtainable from Top Brassware Ltd., Maltby, Rotherham, South Yorks on Tel.No.01709819077.
Eventually, though, I had to source my actual valve from S.A. Lunn Ltd on Tel.No.01252548711. Use Google to access their website under "Lunns" where full details and pictures of the wide range of valves they have available can be see. Orders can be submitted online. Please note that I am a householder and have no connection with either of the companies mentioned.
I have been trying to source an extended Dualux cold water cartridge for almost 12 months. Ideal Standard tell me it is obsolete, but I do not want to spend several thousand pounds replacing the bathroom for the sake of £100 worth of spare part. Is here a plumber with my part hidden on a shelf somewhere?
For repairs to ceramic taps contact silver saints London handyman service - www.silversaints.com
I also needed a replacement ceramic cartridge for my blanco mixer tap which led me to this blog and the previous posters comment (2 Apr 2008).
After some detective work I identified the part on the Lunns website (http://www.lunns.net/), ordered it and all is now good.
As with the previous poster, I too am in no way related to the company.
If you're stuck for valves, try www.notjusttaps.co.uk
Their replacement valves did the job on my kitchen tap and they seem to have most sizes
Kevin
Thanks for that tip, appreciated.
How do I recondition / fix a valve? The tap is only around 5 years old but we do live in a very hard water area. It sounds like it will take ages to source a replacement I may as well spend some time trying to fix it!
Hi Anonymous. I was recommended to remove the cartridge and soak the ceramic part in Oust or some other lime descaler. Can't guarantee that it won't damage other components e.g. rubber washers, but worth a try.
Ps Still haven't managed to find a replacement extended monolux dualux cold water cartridge. Now been looking for two years. Surely some plumbers merchant must have one gathering dust on a shelf some where!
Though the innards of different makes of valve differ this is not the problem. In my experience the difficulty is finding the right length knob spline shaft together with the right number of teeth (or splines) on it and the right thread tapping into the end of this. Having got all these right two jobs ago there was a secondary thread on the replacement which fouled the knob and had to be ground off. What a con it was when we were 'sold' these things as improvement on rubber washers. Today I fitted a wrong spline unit with the splines ground off and an amplifier knob attached to keep things going while I source a replacement. I've yet to find a problem with the ceramic plates, invariably its the rubber that has lost its spring. (Sometimes an o ring will pack it)
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Now if I have any problem in the future I only have to change a washer.Hope this helps some of you.
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Ceramic valve taps, my wife says, are really nice. She means "to use", of course, and they are - with that lovely quarter turn to full-on.
But they're not without downsides, as this thread attests. One is water hammer, a destructive hydraulic phenomenon that affects hydro-electric power schemes in the same way as household plumbing. Shut the tap off too quickly and a dynamic pressure wave is generated in the pipe's water, testing your pipe joints to their limit.
Another problem is that they cannot tolerate water impurities; not just particles of a perceptible size like grit and sand - which you ought to filter out of the mains supply with a mesh filter cartridge - but the dissolved impurities in hard water as well. That's to say, water laden with abrasive salts, like calcium sulphate (gypsum) and calcium carbonate (chalk) can coat and microscopically score the ceramic surfaces.
Adding to your headache is that there are more types of ceramic cartridges than you can shake a stick at - identical in their basic engineering, but each crucially different to the next in some dimensional respect. Not like the good old days when you could cut a rubber tap washer from any old piece of rubber a few millimeters thick!
All is not lost, however. The ceramic discs CAN be refurbished, in the following manner:
Remove the cartridge from the tap body with an adjustable spanner.
Carefully remove the plastic sealing ring from the cartridge cylinder, prising it out uniformly with a small screwdriver.
The valve's seal is provided by two opposing ceramic butterfly disks. One resembles a bow-tie inside a circular rim; the other a bow-tie precisely.
If they can't be remove because they're gummed up with deposits from hard water, immerse them in vinegar, lemon juice, any other acid, or even a proprietary limescale remover to free them.
Carefully work the disks out using a small screwdriver. The first disk, because of its neat fit, may be more difficult than the second; take your time, and don't encourage it to tilt and jam.
You will need a good flat surface for what follows; the underside of a good quality ceramic plate, or the broad flat of a large steel knife, will do.
Apply a little car body paint cutting paste (available from any car parts shop) to the plate or knife. This is a very fine abrasive paste in an oil matrix. With a circular motion, rub the sealing face of the disk for a minute or so. This will remove any build-up of limescale and impurity scratching. Then do the same with the opposing disk surface.
Re-assemble the cartridge. The simple butterfly ceramic will go back easily into place, and will mate with the two lugs on the face of the cartridge stem. Next, the opposing butterfly-in-a-ring ceramic disk may be a little harder to re-install. The cut-outs on its outer rim need to mate with the protrusions on the inside face of the cartridge barrel. Insert it with care, and avoid tilting it and allowing it to jam; these elements are reasonably strong, but they are brittle, so don't force it. It will re-seat with care.
When the two ceramic elements are in intimate contact, re-insert the plastic sealing ring. Re-fit the cartridge in the tap body.
If, for any reason, the tap still leaks, it is likely that you haven't ground the surfaces enough; repeat the process.
Having completed this, you ought to get many more useful years from the tap before you need to repeat the procedure, and hopefully b
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Having read all the post, I am in a better position to tackle my problem with my Borma Lux kitchen tap. But before I actually get down to descaling/cleaning or replacing the ceramic valves within the the cartridges I need to remove the cartridge from the housing. It's jammed solid and can not unscrew it with a reasonable force. I have used WD40 and applied mild heat but it won't budge. Can anyone help me undo it so that I can actually get at the ceramic valve itself to work on.It would be very much appreciated.
By the way to undo the cartridges, I take it that I have to turn it anticlockwise as I face It. Is that correct?
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